tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15724579.post2442048845110979614..comments2024-02-13T03:00:19.778-07:00Comments on Corporate eLearning Strategies and Development: Students Are Smarter Than Your Old eLearning Designbschlenkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13519463877110474192noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15724579.post-65748234485993422782012-07-12T06:07:21.701-07:002012-07-12T06:07:21.701-07:00Check out The eLearning Guild's LinkedIn Group...Check out The eLearning Guild's LinkedIn Group. There are thousands of members having discussions just like this. <br /><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=102144" rel="nofollow">http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=102144</a><br /><br />Siege - The LinkedIn Group is the best place to continue this discussion.bschlenkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13519463877110474192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15724579.post-14411481922091235002012-07-08T00:55:07.656-07:002012-07-08T00:55:07.656-07:00This is a good discussion!
eLearning that uses ...This is a good discussion! <br /><br />eLearning that uses scenarios that make the learner "think" about an issue, and learn from the mistakes they make, is one preferable type of elearning - have a look at this example created in Articulate Storyline - http://www.articulate.com/products/storyline-showcase.php (my favourite is "Broken Coworker"). I've learnt a lot from discussion groups on LinkedIn. You're welcome to visit my profile at http://nz.linkedin.com/in/michellechilds1, and you'll there some of the groups that I subscribe to.<br />Some really good blogs to check out are The Rapid eLearning Blog http://www.articulate.com/rapid-elearning/ - although it's based on Articulate products, he has some excellent advice for designing elearning.<br /><br />Hope this helps.Michelle Childshttp://michelle-childs.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15724579.post-30596241554271998912012-07-07T09:56:26.643-07:002012-07-07T09:56:26.643-07:00Thanks for the reply, I will certainly look into t...Thanks for the reply, I will certainly look into those resources.<br /><br />Let me spin it a different way.<br /><br />If you had a big bag-o-cash, and could have a software company build you a tool. What would you have that tool do?<br /><br />Is there a "forum" you guys all use/share? I could shovel hundreds of questions at you lot, and your blog probably isn't the best medium to use.:)Siegehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13746414345601199443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15724579.post-88169911243298882602012-07-07T08:47:44.855-07:002012-07-07T08:47:44.855-07:00Hi Siege,
You!re not alone in wondering what is ne...Hi Siege,<br />You!re not alone in wondering what is next. I have some ideas and some examples in previous post. Our entire industry struggles with the same questions. <br />In many businesses, certain "training" is required for legal reasons. From a business perspective "content + quiz = compliance" and therefore it's the better choice. From a pure learning perspective it rarely is proven effective. <br />BUT that doesn't mean that model can't be more effective if designed correctly.<br />I would encourage you to read up on some of the latest brain research to build a foundation to build on. Look into concepts like space-repetition. Read everything written by Ruth Clark on the science of instruction. <br />I totally understand why you feel the way you do...and I must sound like a ranting lunatic. There are many people like yourself just getting into this industry and it must be confusing as hack for you all because it's confusing to all of us who have been doing it for a long time as well.<br />Hang in there, and keep asking questions. My apologies if the tone of my blog is off-putting. I too often default to assuming my colleagues for the past decade are the only ones that read this blog :)bschlenkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13519463877110474192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15724579.post-35062380561903372782012-07-07T05:44:31.923-07:002012-07-07T05:44:31.923-07:00Hi Michelle,
I have seen lot of courses, some loo...Hi Michelle,<br /><br />I have seen lot of courses, some look nice and are well written, others not so much. Most still follow this "next button + exam" scenario. We don't know if in the case of this learner, it was great content or bad content - I would wager she would do her phone trick either way.<br /><br />Your corporate example is very common. Workers are not invested in learning what their managers put them through, they don't care. Who wants to know how to lift boxes properly or best to follow corporate guidelines. Its just a tick in a box. I know I wouldn't.<br /><br />I am just struggling with picturing any alternative as I haven't had experience of one yet. The tools out there pretty much only offer "click next + exam", don't they?<br /><br />I'm really new to this community (of eLearning blogs etc) is there a good resource of new techniques out there somebody could point me at?<br /><br />TBH, I am not sure there is an answer to this yet. The corporate world wants to assess if their courses are being passed, how else do you do it (if you stick to actual elearning)<br /><br />p.s I'm not being argumentative, I just would like to understand what's around the corner in terms of new techniques.Siegehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13746414345601199443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15724579.post-8735319619539068472012-07-06T13:43:12.309-07:002012-07-06T13:43:12.309-07:00Hi Seige
I think we all agree that there is good e...Hi Seige<br />I think we all agree that there is good elearning and bad elearning out there, just like there is good and bad face to face training. The question is - "did the learner learn?". Being able to recall something that you read a couple of minutes ago, doesn't mean that you learnt anything. Would she remember it even half an hour later? We will never know if this learner learnt anything or not! <br />I heard recently of an example of eLearning in a large organisation, where the staff just clicked through each slide without even reading and did a multi-choice test at the end, which they could just keep redoing until they got the pass.<br />I'm not criticising the tools, I'm talking about how they're used. In Brent's example, it doesn't sound like this type of elearning was appropriate.Michelle Childshttp://michelle-childs.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15724579.post-57849552505123070322012-07-06T06:03:56.784-07:002012-07-06T06:03:56.784-07:00you also mention its useless - I am assuming she p...you also mention its useless - I am assuming she passed the assessment and learnt something?Siegehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13746414345601199443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15724579.post-76690790820143692242012-07-06T06:02:23.716-07:002012-07-06T06:02:23.716-07:00I'm not an ID (whatever that is) just somebody...I'm not an ID (whatever that is) just somebody interested in developing tools for e-learning. <br /><br />I don't see any problem with what the girl did in your post, almost every elearning framework would allow you to reload the module or just use the back button to revisit content. She just made that process easier on herself (smart girl). She still had to read the content on her phone to answer the question.<br /><br />You didn't give any examples or even hints apart from "WE NEED DIFFERENT, NOW!" <br /><br />Of-course social media is full of negative comments on e-learning. Who wants to do e-learning? <br /><br />Has the classroom dynamic changed much, you still use books and have exams, right?<br /><br />Not saying I don't agree that some innovation is needed, but saying "click next + assessment" is not effective without much evidence or at least some alternatives is just a little brash i think.Siegehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13746414345601199443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15724579.post-14743844481415444262012-07-05T22:39:21.570-07:002012-07-05T22:39:21.570-07:00Sounds good to me.... I'm gonna jump on your b...Sounds good to me.... I'm gonna jump on your bandwagon! Would be interested to hear more about changing adult learning theories if you can direct me to any sites. <br /><br />Look forward to reading more from you :-)Michelle Childshttp://michelle-childs.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15724579.post-90787371205593395942012-07-05T13:27:07.131-07:002012-07-05T13:27:07.131-07:00You are right. I probably beat up ID's a litt...You are right. I probably beat up ID's a little too much. I am one too, and I'm guilty of creating "click next" eLearning courses. But that was many years ago now, and there are new technologies that allow so much more. I know there are many ID's doing great work, and they know who they are. But there are many still stuck in the eLearning mindset of the '90s and it's time to move on.<br /><br />I'm fortunate enough to see our industry through a very broad lens and from a very high level. What I see is a market just ACHING for our help and few ID's to answer the call. I see entrepreneurs from other industries diving in to solve learning problems with new media technologies, and I see teachers effectively using new media and making a fortune...quietly. I see the world of education/training/learning changing to the point of traditional ID extinction. Adult learning theory is even changing, and becoming more clearly defined with very recent findings in brain research and more. <br /><br />It's time for a refresh. This blog post and many more to come will be my call to arms for those settled comfortably into their old ID ways.bschlenkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13519463877110474192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15724579.post-32083537752400082572012-07-05T13:08:01.769-07:002012-07-05T13:08:01.769-07:00I totally agree with you that that "clicking ...I totally agree with you that that "clicking is not learning" However,I have seen some absolutely awesome elearning created by ID's. My take on it is that with rapid elearning authoring tools making it easier for just about anyone to create eLearning, too many people just don't understand adult learning principles and we end up with click, click and NOT learning!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11737021225544590096noreply@blogger.com